Nonchalant Eruption
I wrote a post which caused me to feel like I shouldn’t have written it. In the post, I viciously attacked Kenneth Copeland (a super rich televangelist who uses the word of God to make money and live a lavish lifestyle). The guy is selling happiness (a hundred fold return of happiness for your “donation”).
I sincerely apologize to two of my beloved readers, Square1 and Nimrodjo for deleting the post. Unfortunately, their comments were deleted along with it. I felt like I verbally assaulted Copeland and it bothered me.
Is it wrong to attack someone for doing something so abhorrent? Often, I am brutally honest in my writing. I pull no punches and my intent is absolute. I allowed “political correctness” to influence what I believe and how I express my opinion (that bothers me even more).
Does it make me an uncouth ruffian to say things in such an aggressive way? Does it make me less civilized, less intelligent or does it make me something worse? These are inner struggles which reflect my tormented spirit.
When I see the horrible things going on in this modern time, it weighs me down. I had someone tell me, “You need to chill out. You need to be nonchalant.”
Sometimes I want to slap the nonchalant attitude across it’s conceited, pretentious face - while looking down it’s powdered, regal nose of nobility.
Sometimes, things need to be said in an offensive way. How do you treat a murderer or a child molester with polite, political correctness? Let us discuss this disgusting human being like educated, ostentatious representatives of slimy egotism. I’m fed up with how society treats things in this half-hearted manner.
I present this “reprint” of the article I wrote. If I hide how I feel, I cannot be honest. Instead of being nonchalant, I will be brutally honest. I will not hide behind a mask, pretending to be something I’m not.
The truth is, Kenneth Copeland is a scumbag. There’s no other way to say it. This world is filled with people like him, and it needs to be said - in a plain, unadorned fashion. It is what it is. Here’s the post:
Kenneth Copeland: Human Scum
Every religion has many permutations, some good and some disgusting. Where I live, there are so many variations of Christianity, it’s unbelievable (no pun intended). People make up their own variations all the time. Some take the Bible literally, some have their own interpretations.
Of course, this all depends on which version of the bible a person follows…the old testament, the new testament…the King James version and so on. I get stopped several times each year by someone (usually in a grocery store) who asks me, “Have you been saved?”I usually answer, “Yes…I saved myself.” and walk away (simply to get away from them, I can’t get into a two hour discussion with every stranger). Some of them nearly resort to violence - with a crazed look of fear in their eyes.
They scream, “You will burn in the fires of hell for all of eternity!!!!”
That crazed look reminds me of some of the Islamic extremists I’ve seen. I think most religions are good and the people who believe are also good. I know many Muslims, Christians and Jews -they are good people who don’t promote violence. However, each of these has a dark side of hardcore fundamentalists who are dangerous and fearful.
I don’t mind people passionately believing in what they do. It gets out of hand when a person is attacked or ridiculed for not believing. The point isn’t whether I’ve been saved or not, it’s that I haven’t been saved at their particular church! One religious madman told me, “A person saved in the Catholic church, is doomed to hell.”
Nowadays, you can make up your own religion such as Scientology (a manipulative religion made up by a science fiction author). In America, you are rewarded for this; you are tax exempt.
I believe that corruption is so prevalent among religious profiteers, something must be done. It is our responsibility as citizens to change things. If we depend on the politicians to do it for us, it will never happen.
Kenneth Copeland, the “godfather of prosperity gospel” deserves to be imprisoned and stripped of all wealth. How obvious does it have to be? The guy is living like a king…tax free, using God to line his wallet. How can people be so ignorant? And some people still believe there is no such thing as mass mind control.
Islamic fundamentalists spread fear as a tool to further their quest. Fundamentalist Christians also spread fear; the fear that you’ll burn in hell if you don’t donate! The right wing republicans spread fear to keep themselves in charge.
Fear is the most powerful of all psychological tools. It comes in many forms and is easily disguised. It only takes one person who passionately believes something to gather a following.
I have friends from many religions and will continue to have them. I have faith in humanity and know that there will always be lost sheep looking for a leader. Pay attention to what is going on around you. Never be afraid to question your own beliefs.
I wasn’t trying to be polite with the title, it’s accuracy I’m striving for. Please think for yourself and don’t donate your hard earned money to Kenneth Copeland.
I have to give credit to Senator Charles Grassley for launching investigations into six money hording televangelists. This is one crime that must be punished. Please watch this video and see what you think.
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I saw many televangelists like this one on TV, acting like they are crazy and it makes me sick just looking at them. I’m an atheist, but I really think that Christians must follow and listen to that people who preach about kindness and mercy and all other good things. Not those who preach about money. How can you be a religious people and to believe in such “preachers”? This is something that I cannot understand.
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It is okay Bobby…I think blogging about how we think and feel about certain matter is a therapy to our soul…it almost have the same effect when we discuss important matter with friends, siblings or our life partner…I also don’t like those scumbag out there but I do believe there is always consequences when we do something…i believe Isaac Newton put it in the best way “Every reaction has an opposite reaction”…
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I did not see this as a personal attack, though perhaps Mr. Copeland and his supporters might disagree. I saw you giving an example of something that many Americans relegate to one group of people over another. In much the same way Pat Robertson is used as an example in this article that appeared in the Houston Chronicle, about the rumors circulating in regards to the possibility of Barack Obama being a Muslim. Heaven forbid!
I found your article to be genuine, and intelligent. As I said in my original comment, people are people are people, no matter where you go. Fanatics come in all shapes, religions, and sizes.
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That’s right Diana, a truly religious person doesn’t base their religion on money, but the US government supports those who do…that is revolting
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I agree 100% with that post. Pat Robertson is nurturing the “what if in secret he’s an extremeist” seed. This country is supposed to be about freedom, regardless of religious views. That same seed could be true of a Christian candidate; what if that Christian is one who worships the almighty dollar bill?
I like to believe that most people are far too intelligent to kill people or make money through religion, but I am also an idealist. Thank you!
Bobby as you very well know I am a Christian. and, I couldn’t agree with you more. I will judge Copeland as God will do that. But, I do try very hard to remain true to my beliefs that God has placed in my heart.
And, I too deplore Copeland and all the likes of him. In my personal opinion he is yet another t.v. evangelist who has gahtered up many wordly treasures. The very bible he preaches from warns us about the storing up of wordly treasures.
I for one am glad to see that you decided to repost this.
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it bothers me when someone hides behind ‘the word of god’ for their own ends.
businesses that display something like “christian plumber service” also bothers me, being a christian does not mean you are good although being good could make you a christian (replace christian with any other religious group name)
I don’t subscribe to any particular religious belief, I do try and live a life of dharma and respect and follow certain Buddhist practices (I have an adopted Chinese family who all do the same) but that’s because it’s not a religion to me. It’s a guidline or path to happiness and could easily be called “common sense” or “live and let live”.
that being said, there are good and altruistic religious leaders out there that do good and help/save people but it seems that religion can all too often be used as a ‘means to an end’ rather than “an end to meanness”.
I read a really good post about how someone recalled their godfather talking at an abortion rally filled with religious nuts here which proves that there are ‘good’ religious people out there…
great post Bobby, I like to read posts that don’t hold back.
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“Where I live, there are so many variations of Christianity, its unbelievable (no pun intended).”
I LOLed at that one.
Instead I’ll just leave you with a hysterical video about ole Teddy boy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ
Personally, I cant’ stand any televangelists. I see them as doing nothing but capitalizing on peoples’ faith, their belief systems and their weaknesses, all the while living a lifestyle that is the complete opposite of what they preach. But sometimes they get caught red-handed (Ted Haggard, for example). Ah, I love when that happens.
Anyway, I could go on and on about what scumbags I think they are, but I won’t.
Shine on,
Aaron
Though some might disagree, I am not judging him, I’m calling him out for what he’s done - something I feel I see more clearly now. We all, regardless of beliefs, must live together in this world; I believe it is possible! Thanks Jackie
Though I will not get into my religious beliefs, it is very much related to Buddhism. I call myself a Taoist, which I consider to be more of a philosophy than a religion. How great of you to share this with me! Now…how do I contact that Christian Plummer?
Amen. Don’t be afraid to call a spade a spade. I did a post on Kenneth Copeland on my Veterans for Ron Paul blog not too long ago, and I got the usual emails saying that I ought not be “condemning” Mr. Copeland. Their argument is a paradox. In the process of suggesting that I am bad for calling Kenneth Copeland bad, they are calling me bad, too. Condemning people for condemning people. Now that is hypocrisy at it’s finest. It would be one thing to tell me where I am wrong and call me out on that. It is another to make a blanket condemnation of somebody because that person….made a condemnation of somebody. Judging the behavior of judging behaviors.
Another criticism I hear is that somehow it is worse to call out Copeland on heresies because he is a “man of God.” Is he really? Actually, if these people actually pulled out their Bibles and read them, they would find that we are supposed to sort through doctrine. Bible doctrine DOES matter. And Copeland is so far from Christian Biblical orthodoxy, and the stuff he preaches is radically anti-Christian, I doubt he is a man of God. Thus, their argument is nullified. It is no worse to call out Copeland than it is to call out a Scientologist, or a Muslim, or whatever.
Not only that, those people who believe it is somehow wrong to call out a “man of God” like Copeland are themselves calling out the real men of God, when they condemn Christians for exposing heresy.
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If I met Copeland in a dark alley…would I rob him? hahahahaha! Thanks Aaron
Thanks so much Mark! I am enjoying your comment. The world needs people to speak the truth and not fear criticism. No true religious leader is about money and Copeland…I hope this investigation actually gets something done.
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Bobby, This was one of them posts I was talking about where you show your passion for blogging and for humanity… It is powerful and on a personal thought “If I have to reveal every cent I make as a tax payer, these thieves should have to do the same!” Keep showing us the way … digging for the truth and revealing it….. Hugs ….
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That’s right Judy! If a Church is honest and using money like their supposed to, I really have no problem with their being tax exempt…but when they hide and do extremely suspicious things, they must be investigated.
I believe Copeland is a liar and is taking advantage of people who really believe him. Jesus didn’t care about money and that should be the greatest of examples for him. Thank you so much!
Kenneth Copeland put on a excellent performance at his latest ministers conference held on January 22,2008 visible at wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips , which has now gotten the attention of people all across the USA, and abroad. The message he was unmistakably sending, came across loud and clear on every subject he was addressing. From voicing his personal feelings about the senate investigation, to a multitude of other issues facing KCM. Surprisingly, Kenneth does admit to some element of truth in the letter KCM received from the Senate, but did not go into any detailed explanations. Also in his defense, he makes the accusation that the truth is being twisted a bit. A old saying comes to mind , what comes around goes around. Years of promoting the promises of prosperity, physical healing, and last but not least the twisting of biblical scripture for personal gain has returned to KCM full circle.
I had a home, I had a life, I had faith, I had a family, I lost a loved one, these are merely a handful of endless testimonies coming to light nationwide. Ranging from all walks of life, their heartbreaking testimonies can be found throughout the web, yet inconceivably, victims are being labeled as fools, ignorant, and basically downright blind for not seeing the truth behind the Prosperity Gospels falsehoods. Being only human, our quest for health and wealth, regrettably does lead some in the wrong direction. Promises and guaranties, made by the Prosperity Gospel ministers, give people that have not obtained these blessings on their own, a second chance at achieving their goals in life. An important discovery I made while reviewing testimonies, revealed the fact numerous victims had very little knowledge of the Prosperity Gospels dark side. These unfortunate victims, appear to be equipped with only a small portion of the web of deceit these ministers weave . For example, picture yourself being raised in a small country town, with a population of only a few hundred, the closest city, only a population of only a few thousand. Computers, internet, cable, satellite TV, and other high tech gadgets are not needed or desired. This was my life, before KCM.
Prosperity Gospel ministers enter the homes of many victims though a thirty minute Sunday morning worship service on a local broadcast station. Myself, growing up in Jigger La., truly located in the middle of nowhere, I can testify to the fact that we only received on a clear day about three or four channels at most. Therefore warnings of the numerous dangers, and intentional deceit, associated with Prosperity Gospel ministries, being made by critics, ministers, and victims went unheard by many. The irony of this are the many warning labels we all encounter every day. From cleaning supplies to over the counter medications, labels posted on various products warn us of the dangers associated with that particular product. Regrettably Prosperity Gospel does not offer this, but should! Familys have lost their homes, lifesavings, and some even their lives to the Prosperity Gospel.
Unfortunately my mother was not one of the lucky ones, her confidence, and faith in this false Gospel, ultimately cost her, her life. After more than a decade of programming her mind to believe and think the Prosperity Gospel way of life, she lost her battle with cancer. By refusing medical attention, she sealed her fate, but the programming she had acquired from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland proved strong all the way to her last breath. A diary she left behind revealed the horrific tale of her life from 1992-2002, the top of each page titled with Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, or BVOV. Some mistakes in life we can not undo, and good intentions dont always go as planed, these victims are simply following misleading promises of health and wealth. Their use of miraculous healing confessions, and newly found wealth testimonies, are their sales pitch, my mother among others, are proof that their sale pitch does work. The possibility of certain Mega churches misusing contributors finances for their own personal luxuries is ultimately what brought this scam to the publics attention, not the loss of life, the financially bankrupt, nor the numerous homeless victims that have been left in the wake of this devastating hoax.
Knowledge, is the only discovery I found to be effective in this seemingly endless battle. Sadly for some our efforts will go unheard. As for my family, once again I am addressing another envelope to Kenneth Copeland Ministries, asking once again for a summery of my mothers (Bonnie Parker) contributions to KCM, and since they have bankrupt our family also due to the numerous expenses we encountered before and after moms death, and once more, ask them to purchase a headstone for mom. I believe they at least owe her that much.
The family of Bonnie Parker