Comments on: Nonchalant Eruption http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/ Thoughts and Fiction of Bobby Revell Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:27:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kbeach http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-1/#comment-5344 Kbeach Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:09:00 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5344 Kenneth Copeland put on a excellent performance at his latest ministers conference held on January 22,2008 visible at wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips , which has now gotten the attention of people all across the USA, and abroad. The message he was unmistakably sending, came across loud and clear on every subject he was addressing. From voicing his personal feelings about the senate investigation, to a multitude of other issues facing KCM. Surprisingly, Kenneth does admit to some element of truth in the letter KCM received from the Senate, but did not go into any detailed explanations. Also in his defense, he makes the accusation that the truth is being twisted a bit. A old saying comes to mind , what comes around goes around. Years of promoting the promises of prosperity, physical healing, and last but not least the twisting of biblical scripture for personal gain has returned to KCM full circle. “ I had a home“, “I had a life“, “I had faith“, “I had a family“, “I lost a loved one“, these are merely a handful of endless testimonies coming to light nationwide. Ranging from all walks of life, their heartbreaking testimonies can be found throughout the web, yet inconceivably, victims are being labeled as fools, ignorant, and basically downright blind for not seeing the truth behind the Prosperity Gospels falsehoods. Being only human, our quest for health and wealth, regrettably does lead some in the wrong direction. Promises and guaranties, made by the Prosperity Gospel ministers, give people that have not obtained these blessings on their own, a second chance at achieving their goals in life. An important discovery I made while reviewing testimonies, revealed the fact numerous victims had very little knowledge of the Prosperity Gospels dark side. These unfortunate victims, appear to be equipped with only a small portion of the web of deceit these ministers weave . For example, picture yourself being raised in a small country town, with a population of only a few hundred, the closest city, only a population of only a few thousand. Computers, internet, cable, satellite TV, and other high tech gadgets are not needed or desired. This was my life, before KCM. Prosperity Gospel ministers enter the homes of many victims though a thirty minute Sunday morning worship service on a local broadcast station. Myself, growing up in Jigger La., truly located in the middle of nowhere, I can testify to the fact that we only received on a clear day about three or four channels at most. Therefore warnings of the numerous dangers, and intentional deceit, associated with Prosperity Gospel ministries, being made by critics, ministers, and victims went unheard by many. The irony of this are the many warning labels we all encounter every day. From cleaning supplies to over the counter medications, labels posted on various products warn us of the dangers associated with that particular product. Regrettably Prosperity Gospel does not offer this, but should! Family’s have lost their homes, lifesavings, and some even their lives to the Prosperity Gospel. Unfortunately my mother was not one of the lucky ones, her confidence, and faith in this false Gospel, ultimately cost her, her life. After more than a decade of programming her mind to believe and think the Prosperity Gospel way of life, she lost her battle with cancer. By refusing medical attention, she sealed her fate, but the programming she had acquired from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland proved strong all the way to her last breath. A diary she left behind revealed the horrific tale of her life from 1992-2002, the top of each page titled with Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, or BVOV. Some mistakes in life we can not undo, and good intentions don’t always go as planed, these victims are simply following misleading promises of health and wealth. Their use of miraculous healing confessions, and newly found wealth testimonies, are their sales pitch, my mother among others, are proof that their sale pitch does work. The possibility of certain Mega churches misusing contributors finances for their own personal luxuries is ultimately what brought this scam to the publics attention, not the loss of life, the financially bankrupt, nor the numerous homeless victims that have been left in the wake of this devastating hoax. Knowledge, is the only discovery I found to be effective in this seemingly endless battle. Sadly for some our efforts will go unheard. As for my family, once again I am addressing another envelope to Kenneth Copeland Ministries, asking once again for a summery of my mothers (Bonnie Parker) contributions to KCM, and since they have bankrupt our family also due to the numerous expenses we encountered before and after mom’s death, and once more, ask them to purchase a headstone for mom. I believe they at least owe her that much. The family of Bonnie Parker Kenneth Copeland put on a excellent performance at his latest ministers conference held on January 22,2008 visible at wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips , which has now gotten the attention of people all across the USA, and abroad. The message he was unmistakably sending, came across loud and clear on every subject he was addressing. From voicing his personal feelings about the senate investigation, to a multitude of other issues facing KCM. Surprisingly, Kenneth does admit to some element of truth in the letter KCM received from the Senate, but did not go into any detailed explanations. Also in his defense, he makes the accusation that the truth is being twisted a bit. A old saying comes to mind , what comes around goes around. Years of promoting the promises of prosperity, physical healing, and last but not least the twisting of biblical scripture for personal gain has returned to KCM full circle.
“ I had a home“, “I had a life“, “I had faith“, “I had a family“, “I lost a loved one“, these are merely a handful of endless testimonies coming to light nationwide. Ranging from all walks of life, their heartbreaking testimonies can be found throughout the web, yet inconceivably, victims are being labeled as fools, ignorant, and basically downright blind for not seeing the truth behind the Prosperity Gospels falsehoods. Being only human, our quest for health and wealth, regrettably does lead some in the wrong direction. Promises and guaranties, made by the Prosperity Gospel ministers, give people that have not obtained these blessings on their own, a second chance at achieving their goals in life. An important discovery I made while reviewing testimonies, revealed the fact numerous victims had very little knowledge of the Prosperity Gospels dark side. These unfortunate victims, appear to be equipped with only a small portion of the web of deceit these ministers weave . For example, picture yourself being raised in a small country town, with a population of only a few hundred, the closest city, only a population of only a few thousand. Computers, internet, cable, satellite TV, and other high tech gadgets are not needed or desired. This was my life, before KCM.
Prosperity Gospel ministers enter the homes of many victims though a thirty minute Sunday morning worship service on a local broadcast station. Myself, growing up in Jigger La., truly located in the middle of nowhere, I can testify to the fact that we only received on a clear day about three or four channels at most. Therefore warnings of the numerous dangers, and intentional deceit, associated with Prosperity Gospel ministries, being made by critics, ministers, and victims went unheard by many. The irony of this are the many warning labels we all encounter every day. From cleaning supplies to over the counter medications, labels posted on various products warn us of the dangers associated with that particular product. Regrettably Prosperity Gospel does not offer this, but should! Family’s have lost their homes, lifesavings, and some even their lives to the Prosperity Gospel.
Unfortunately my mother was not one of the lucky ones, her confidence, and faith in this false Gospel, ultimately cost her, her life. After more than a decade of programming her mind to believe and think the Prosperity Gospel way of life, she lost her battle with cancer. By refusing medical attention, she sealed her fate, but the programming she had acquired from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland proved strong all the way to her last breath. A diary she left behind revealed the horrific tale of her life from 1992-2002, the top of each page titled with Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, or BVOV. Some mistakes in life we can not undo, and good intentions don’t always go as planed, these victims are simply following misleading promises of health and wealth. Their use of miraculous healing confessions, and newly found wealth testimonies, are their sales pitch, my mother among others, are proof that their sale pitch does work. The possibility of certain Mega churches misusing contributors finances for their own personal luxuries is ultimately what brought this scam to the publics attention, not the loss of life, the financially bankrupt, nor the numerous homeless victims that have been left in the wake of this devastating hoax.
Knowledge, is the only discovery I found to be effective in this seemingly endless battle. Sadly for some our efforts will go unheard. As for my family, once again I am addressing another envelope to Kenneth Copeland Ministries, asking once again for a summery of my mothers (Bonnie Parker) contributions to KCM, and since they have bankrupt our family also due to the numerous expenses we encountered before and after mom’s death, and once more, ask them to purchase a headstone for mom. I believe they at least owe her that much.
The family of Bonnie Parker

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-/#comment-5326 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:13:34 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5326 That's right Judy! If a Church is honest and using money like their supposed to, I really have no problem with their being tax exempt...but when they hide and do extremely suspicious things, they must be investigated. I believe Copeland is a liar and is taking advantage of people who really believe him. Jesus didn't care about money and that should be the greatest of examples for him. Thank you so much! :smile: That’s right Judy! If a Church is honest and using money like their supposed to, I really have no problem with their being tax exempt…but when they hide and do extremely suspicious things, they must be investigated.

I believe Copeland is a liar and is taking advantage of people who really believe him. Jesus didn’t care about money and that should be the greatest of examples for him. Thank you so much! :smile:

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-/#comment-5325 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:07:10 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5325 Thanks Purple Frog!!!!! Ribbitt...haha :mrgreen: Thanks Purple Frog!!!!! Ribbitt…haha :mrgreen:

]]> By: Judy http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-1/#comment-5324 Judy Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:00:17 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5324 Bobby, This was one of them posts I was talking about where you show your passion for blogging and for humanity... It is powerful and on a personal thought "If I have to reveal every cent I make as a tax payer, these thieves should have to do the same!" Keep showing us the way ... digging for the truth and revealing it..... Hugs .... <em>Judy's last blog post..<a href='http://sugar-queens-dream.blogspot.com/2008/01/big-bang-meme-lets-smoke-em.html' rel="nofollow">Big Bang Meme- Lets smoke em....</a></em> Bobby, This was one of them posts I was talking about where you show your passion for blogging and for humanity… It is powerful and on a personal thought “If I have to reveal every cent I make as a tax payer, these thieves should have to do the same!” Keep showing us the way … digging for the truth and revealing it….. Hugs ….

Judy’s last blog post..Big Bang Meme- Lets smoke em….

]]> By: purplefrog http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-1/#comment-5337 purplefrog Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:52:50 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5337 I have something for you over at my blog... http://purplefrogcat.blogspot.com :grin: :grin: <em>purplefrog's last blog post..<a href='http://purplefrogcat.blogspot.com/2008/02/you-are-toadally-awesome-award.html' rel="nofollow">You are Toadally Awesome Award</a></em> I have something for you over at my blog…
http://purplefrogcat.blogspot.com :grin: :grin:

purplefrog’s last blog post..You are Toadally Awesome Award

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-1/#comment-5334 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:21:09 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5334 Thanks so much Mark! I am enjoying your comment. The world needs people to speak the truth and not fear criticism. No true religious leader is about money and Copeland...I hope this investigation actually gets something done. I checked out your fine blog and will be reading! Thanks so much Mark! I am enjoying your comment. The world needs people to speak the truth and not fear criticism. No true religious leader is about money and Copeland…I hope this investigation actually gets something done.

I checked out your fine blog and will be reading!

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-/#comment-5332 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:53:16 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5332 If I met Copeland in a dark alley...would I rob him? hahahahaha! Thanks Aaron :shock: If I met Copeland in a dark alley…would I rob him? hahahahaha! Thanks Aaron :shock:

]]> By: Mark Anderson http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-1/#comment-5335 Mark Anderson Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:34:21 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5335 Amen. Don't be afraid to call a spade a spade. I did a post on Kenneth Copeland on my Veterans for Ron Paul blog not too long ago, and I got the usual emails saying that I ought not be "condemning" Mr. Copeland. Their argument is a paradox. In the process of suggesting that I am bad for calling Kenneth Copeland bad, they are calling me bad, too. Condemning people for condemning people. Now that is hypocrisy at it's finest. It would be one thing to tell me where I am wrong and call me out on that. It is another to make a blanket condemnation of somebody because that person....made a condemnation of somebody. Judging the behavior of judging behaviors. Another criticism I hear is that somehow it is worse to call out Copeland on heresies because he is a "man of God." Is he really? Actually, if these people actually pulled out their Bibles and read them, they would find that we are supposed to sort through doctrine. Bible doctrine DOES matter. And Copeland is so far from Christian Biblical orthodoxy, and the stuff he preaches is radically anti-Christian, I doubt he is a man of God. Thus, their argument is nullified. It is no worse to call out Copeland than it is to call out a Scientologist, or a Muslim, or whatever. Not only that, those people who believe it is somehow wrong to call out a "man of God" like Copeland are themselves calling out the real men of God, when they condemn Christians for exposing heresy. <em>Mark Anderson's last blog post..<a href='http://veteransforpaul.org/?p=186' rel="nofollow">Mike Huckabee needs to disavow his ties with Kenneth Copeland</a></em> Amen. Don’t be afraid to call a spade a spade. I did a post on Kenneth Copeland on my Veterans for Ron Paul blog not too long ago, and I got the usual emails saying that I ought not be “condemning” Mr. Copeland. Their argument is a paradox. In the process of suggesting that I am bad for calling Kenneth Copeland bad, they are calling me bad, too. Condemning people for condemning people. Now that is hypocrisy at it’s finest. It would be one thing to tell me where I am wrong and call me out on that. It is another to make a blanket condemnation of somebody because that person….made a condemnation of somebody. Judging the behavior of judging behaviors.

Another criticism I hear is that somehow it is worse to call out Copeland on heresies because he is a “man of God.” Is he really? Actually, if these people actually pulled out their Bibles and read them, they would find that we are supposed to sort through doctrine. Bible doctrine DOES matter. And Copeland is so far from Christian Biblical orthodoxy, and the stuff he preaches is radically anti-Christian, I doubt he is a man of God. Thus, their argument is nullified. It is no worse to call out Copeland than it is to call out a Scientologist, or a Muslim, or whatever.

Not only that, those people who believe it is somehow wrong to call out a “man of God” like Copeland are themselves calling out the real men of God, when they condemn Christians for exposing heresy.

Mark Anderson’s last blog post..Mike Huckabee needs to disavow his ties with Kenneth Copeland

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-/#comment-5339 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:17:04 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5339 Though I will not get into my religious beliefs, it is very much related to Buddhism. I call myself a Taoist, which I consider to be more of a philosophy than a religion. How great of you to share this with me! Now...how do I contact that Christian Plummer? :mrgreen: Though I will not get into my religious beliefs, it is very much related to Buddhism. I call myself a Taoist, which I consider to be more of a philosophy than a religion. How great of you to share this with me! Now…how do I contact that Christian Plummer? :mrgreen:

]]> By: Revellian http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/comment-page-/#comment-5340 Revellian Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:12:57 +0000 http://revellian.com/2008/02/01/nonchalant-eruption/#comment-5340 Though some might disagree, I am not judging him, I'm calling him out for what he's done - something I feel I see more clearly now. We all, regardless of beliefs, must live together in this world; I believe it is possible! Thanks Jackie :razz: Though some might disagree, I am not judging him, I’m calling him out for what he’s done – something I feel I see more clearly now. We all, regardless of beliefs, must live together in this world; I believe it is possible! Thanks Jackie :razz:

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