The New World Order - Zeitgeist

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1. Sean Rasmussen on February 9th, 2008 11:04 pm
   

   Hi Bobby.

   That video with George Bush senior sent a chill down my spine too. When GB was running for office (although he probably has more control than Ronald had during the Reagan administration), a friend of mine was ready for doomsday. He told me how a “religous cult” hitchhiker in New Zealand, years ago, had told him that the antichrist was decending on earth to take office in the most powerful country of the world. His challenge was to create a World Currency and a World Government called: One World Order. The name of that “antichrist” was not known, however the initials were: GB. This happened in the late 1970’s.

   Ofcourse, I laughed at the story as I’d heard many of the kind. It wasn’t until his son, GB Junior got in office, I started to remember the story. When 9-11 happened, the feelings I had on that day cannot be put into words. It was a feeling of sadness, anger and betrayal. I wasn’t prepared to “immediately” swallow the pill about America was under attack, especially not after the “alleged incident of Vladimir Putin’s regime blowing up a large building in Russia and blaming Chechen rebels (read:terrorists). Conveniently, it gave a real good excuse for war and access to a lot of oil!!! Sound familiar?

   Anyway, I don’t claim to know the truth and I know opinions upset people. One point I struggle to get across to many people is this: Talking about the “possiblity of alternatives” doesn’t mean you are taking sides. It feeds healthy discussion and debate on the subject rather than dogma (unquestioned belief).

   Mate, you bring up some interesting topics. I will place a review of your blog on my site: DoYouDiggit.com

   Read this book, if you haven’t already. Every person in the world should read this: John Perkins - Confessions of an economic hitman.

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2. Revellian on February 10th, 2008 1:27 am
   

   Hi Sean, I don’t believe that George Bush is the “antichrist” but is certainly in need of an investigation, Who will try him? The idea that any of this is true, is so riveting…most people will never believe it.

   I have a background in both physics and biochemistry; the world trade center was demolished with thermite charges…the planes were the distraction (using the magicians trick of redirection).

   It is ripping me apart to know that my government killed 1000’s of it’s own people. I feel like I’m living under Hitler himself.

3. Sean Rasmussen on February 10th, 2008 2:05 am
   

   I totally agree, Bobby. I don’t think he is either. It’s probably lucky there isn’t a nomination for the award though. I think more people would vote (in the US alone) than attends the elections.

   I have certainly heard many passionate opinions about this topic, both for and against. I can’t say I lean 100% in one direction, but (and it is a big BUT) I really struggle to believe that those building could come down from 2 planes when indeed the US has been known to have some of the best architects and planners in the world. I do believe it would take a lot more than that to wipe out 2 building so well, it seemed planned. I’ve tried to take down card houses with less success than that (if they were built right).

   Regardless of the reasons behind the tragedy of 9-11, my heart bleeds for the 1000’s of families that were destroyed on that day. My heart also goes out to the 10’s of 1000’s of families that have been and are being destroyed in Afghanistan and Iraq as we speak. Retaliation is a terrible thing… and the (financial)? Wow! The 42nd president has accumulated more debt than the previous 41 between them. Now there’s an achievement to go down in history. I’m sure those Trillions could be sorely used domesticly.

   Out of respect to “pro-GB people”: I’m not against the guy. Like many others, I simply disagree with the actions. When Reagan had the solar panels (that Carter had installed) off the roof of the White House, someone started going in the wrong direction.

   Go and get hold of the “Confessions Of An Economic Hitman” book. Honestly, you wont put it down until it’s finished. John Perkins should get an award for bravery for writing that book.

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4. Revellian on February 10th, 2008 5:25 am
   

   First of all, thank you so much for your great comments! I’ll get a copy of that book because I love to learn. What is absolutely mind boggling is that not a single person on this planet can prove that our government was not behind all this.

   When I think about the magnitude, the sheer gargantuan nature of this entire conspiracy, it literally upsets my stomach. American politics are so complex, you really need a PhD in political science to understand it. Even then, how do you know what you’ve learned is actually real?

   The first time I ever heard of these theories, I laughed. I thought there was no way any of it could be true. Now, when I watch the news, I see through all of it. Recently, they held the democratic national convention at the Ford Theater which was carried on like a glamorous, red carpet event…beautiful, perfect people doing beautiful things, wearing beautiful clothes and so on.

   This alienates the “real people” living in America. The fantasy world of TV is a hypnotic drug that affects our minds. Jeez, I am fed up with all of it. This world needs love, not love for power and money - which seems to drive our very existences. It is truly unbelievable how societies have evolved.

   Again, thank you so much Sean

5. elaine on February 10th, 2008 7:11 am
   

   it sound scary indeed. We face similar issues over in Asia. The whole world is getting upside down.

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6. nimrodjo on February 10th, 2008 9:54 am
   

   I just want to say one thing, “It’s true”…The new world order is true…that’s why we need to prepare our selves spiritually, mentally and even physically…
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7. Sean Rasmussen on February 10th, 2008 3:48 pm
   

   Spot on, Bobby. On the topic of money, I”m thinking about writing an article about the history of “Fractional Banking”. That’ll upset a few people, or atleast make people wake up to how little money is actually worth. Moreso, how the banks (not the governments) issue money out of thin air. How the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was sold to private owners early last century and how many of the early US presidents considered the banks a bigger threat to their people than any nation, including England. Lets not even mention that 2 US president were assassinated (Lincoln and JFK) after taking measures to remove powers from the reserve banks. All this for money… actually, it’s power isn’t it. Because money isn’t worth anything, really.

8. Aaron Cook on February 10th, 2008 5:39 pm
   

   “…and no intelligent American can vote for these people. They are not protecting our liberties, they are destroying them.”

   This is precisely why I’m all for Ron Paul. He is the only one who doesn’t want to OWN us and turn this world into a place run completely by the military-industrial complex and such. All I can say is that I’m very scared of where we may be headed. We are shackled tightly by this corrupt monster and I hope to hell that someone soon finds the key.

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9. Zubli Zainordin on February 10th, 2008 7:41 pm
   

   Dear Bobby Revellian, I was in college when I first heard - The New World Order, yes, Many Nations One Voice, yes, after loving the notion of the Global Village by Marshall McLuhan - the medium is the massage. Being a young leader, then, and this topic does not interest my classmates, I scored straight A’s, for diving into this awesomeness, sharing my lecturer’s engrossment in this idea we become well versed. In my total life, another straight A’s, when I discovered many banned books by the government are the books to be read by each of the world’s citizens, to enjoy abundance. Who are these nation’s leaders who hides the truth from the people. Next, there is one friend who really understands me, Redza, pointed out a book that impacted a total paradigm shift for both of us in understanding world events. To purchase the book, we went to the best bookstore in town, and there I said to the cashier, “I am looking for a book, I shall mention to you the title and the author, but please do not repeat loudly, what I shall mention to you”. The cashier asked, “Why?” I answered, “Well, you can never know, your shout might invite bullets flying in from a machine gun from every conceivable angles!” He obliged and silently pointed to the only copy left. Having read this book, I told Redza, surely we, can do what are necessary. He said, the head of the serpent almost touches its own tail, engulfing the world. I ask, so? He said, just be enlightened. True, I begin to read and read to a level of a bibliophile, and one of my many moves is discarding most historical documents. Lot’s of fakes and falsehoods. In my country, history is being re-written. I then see more, The New World Order, what is presented and what it actually is, are totally different. I see in every known educational institutions, most definition of terms are off. Look at, economy, for example. When the premise is not right, how then the operations can be right. I left the teaching profession. Then, propaganda through the various media. Legalized vices. The proliferations of wars. Racial and religious tensions. Yes, I begin to understand it all, an entirety. By now I have identified our common enemy, and by its move, we can smell its evilness. When, 9-11, I was the first to gmail friends, revealing actually who did it. The one at the number one seat, starts to call dad, after witnessing more than a trillion national debt, and looking for a way out. Dad mentioned a name and this lead to meeting a team, and who then plan an executed blowing up of a prominent tower, and blame a nation with oil, so much so the team can legally suck dry this other nation’s black gold. Then, here, a few bloggers were talking about impeach someone and position a new leadership. I told them, the issue is not the changing of presidency, the issue is to ensure, a policy of domestic and international ramifications a return to American Dream, before World War 1. This is because, earlier presidents did not allow any others to hold from behind, theirs in between the legs. Then, I zoom in to a Malaysian leader, who openly criticize globalization. He has been enlightened. I am. Bobby Revellian, I salute you, and for this post, more will be enlightened. Well, the works of Euro Yank, is highly commendable, simply because, not many is able and willing, to do what he does. I salute him, and I say more please. Each individual citizen of the world, especially Americans, I say, be enlightened. To start, you can read - The Reading, and then the literary works of Henry Ford. (wink!). I have.

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10. Sean Rasmussen on February 10th, 2008 10:47 pm
    

    Wow, Zubli. I can see that this thread will get 100’s of comments. Your story is interesting. Thanks for sharing it.

11. Holly on February 11th, 2008 1:09 am
    

    “If you believe that Osama bin Laden caused 9-11…you are ignorant.”

    THANK YOU!!! I have said the same thing many, many times and most of the time I receive comments telling ME how ignorant I am because I DON’T believe that bin Laden caused 9/11 and I don’t believe we should be at war for any reason right now. Maybe if US security was where it should be at the time, 9/11 wouldn’t have had the chance to happen…again. I don’t know, perhaps I’m crazy for thinking that our security should have been at least tripled the first time someone attacked the World Trade Center. Or maybe I’m just logical.

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12. Zubli Zainordin on February 11th, 2008 1:48 am
    

    Dear Sean Rasmussen, we owe this to Euro Yank, and of course this wise Bobby Revellian who join in the move. Both can attract a calling within us, on issues touching the soul of every living world citizen. We are concerned. Most definitely. You are clever too, now I am commenting again. Okay, let’s wake them up, so that each can be enlightened. Please observe, is this already happening many times? A leader of a nation, perhaps maybe probably unsure of yet begin to spark a tiny idea in his mind of attacking another neighboring country. Before he can even speak out his mind, troupes are already deployed to strengthened security throughout the borders. Young Americans potentially do not even know why they are send there, but are always ready to defend or attack. Okay, now another leader of a small nation, send troupes already invading, attacking, murdering, slaughtering inside its neighboring country. This is cannot! So, leaders of a mighty nation set to an urgent meeting on finding a solution, and this meeting lasted for more than a week. While the destruction and devastation continues, the meeting achieved no solution, thus it is brought to the organization of nations, and another meeting larger still is set, and can last more than a month. Did Euro Yank mentioned *Double Standard*? Only the enlightened can see this. The question is how many? Then, we have a role to play here…

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13. Zubli Zainordin on February 11th, 2008 2:19 am
    

    Okay, a name being mentioned here. Hitler! Let’s check our history lesson. Imagine, a team of the educated and highly paid, having all the power to devise a document and this document will flood the education system, and their role is to write about Hitler. What will be the story like? LOL!!! I have said this before, and some whites are saying I adore Hitler. No. Yet, what I am saying is, please check who wrote about this man, and watch the slant. Now, allow me to shed some light of understanding here, as I relate similar documentation in my country. From 1511 there have been 4 nations that colonized my country, and wishing continuously the colonization did not take place in the first place, we achieved independence in 1957. I was born. Later, I go to school, reading history about all the goodness of each of the 4 nations. Worst, those natives who fought against these invading nations, to uphold our sovereignity and huwmanity, are depicted in our history books, as the enemy, yes the real culprit. I passed all. Only until recently, the heroes are properly ordered in our history books now being read by my children at school. Perhaps, on a smaller scale, many people here can grasp what I am saying. Supposing a group of men and women, enter a house, belonging to one of you, and then inside they start bloodshed and property damaging. One of you fought back to save life and owning. The group left. A document is written praising the group and wrong one of you who fought back. How then is the logic. So, please revisit Hitler, or any other historical figure gotten a bad name and a portrayal of images so ugly beyond the truth, as we have done in our case for Mat Kilau, Datok Bahaman, and Dato Maharajalela, and many more. On the one hand, on the other hand, the one sitting nicely in an oval office, respected by millions of voters, is the one pushing the button to blow up the tower. He then, do more damages in another country. So, before we can rewrite history, let us begin with setting the right information in our own mind. Yes, we shall be enlightened…

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14. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 5:24 am
    

    This is why I am helping to make people aware of what is going on as the media chooses not to tell people.

15. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 5:27 am
    

    Yes…it’s absolutely true, and the most horrible thing going on in this world. You are so right about preparing ourselves…I’m glad you said physically prepared, this is something many may not realize!

16. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 5:31 am
    

    I am also voting for Ron Paul…even if he doesn’t have a chance, at least I vote honestly. Unfortunately, many people think Ron Paul is a racist because of those old newsletters that weren’t even authored by him. I actually do like Barack Obama, but he is too much of a Washington insider and he doesn’t mention the New World Order in any of his ideas, which tells me that he doesn’t believe it.

17. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 5:57 am
    

    I believe that individual nations with individual states is the best way for the world to work rather than one corrupt totalitarian element. The entire American government needs to be reworked…starting with a real investigation into 9-11

18. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 6:00 am
    

    Hi Holly, the only security we need is against our own government, not the people of the mideast Thanks for coming by and it’s nice to meet you!

19. Revellian on February 11th, 2008 6:14 am
    

    America has NO reason to ever start a war…period. The idea of a preemptive strike is one born of pure hatred. Zubli…I don’t even feel like an American anymore, I am deeply ashamed at the direction we are heading. God Bless you Zubli

20. Sean Rasmussen on February 11th, 2008 6:26 pm
    

    Hi Zubli. I totally understand what you are talking about. This is a topic that is very hard to discuss amongst the citizens of the latest “Victorious Nations” of WWI & WWII.

    History Is the Propaganda of the Victor

    The victors write history. The losers have to be the bad guys forever. My family grew up in a German occupied country in WWII. Girls that dated German soldiers were raped by the resistance movement. These were the “Good Guys”!!! What readers of history don’t get told is that soldiers are drafted from families of mostly good people and they have no choice but to go off and get killed for God and Country. I read a history book (published in Sweden) with a WWII picture of 2 American soldiers proudly posing next to their “bounty”: A German officer, hanging upside down from a tree by his testicles! Sorry for the visual here, but his genitalia had stretched about 18 inches from the weight of his body. The German soldiers eyes were still open and it seemed he was barely alive. The smile on those American soldiers faces, honestly, it was like they were at their niece’s 7th birthday. They were happy and teeth showing from ear to ear. I saw more remorse in the faces of the killers of the Dalton Gang in Coffeyville! (look up the photos)

    After WWII, England shipped off many of the Jews to the middle east. Russia retained their German POW’s in camps and kept killing their own Jewish citizens. Australia adopted a “White Australia” policy that stated the wanted “Nordic non-Semitic people”. Bloody hypocrisy! 50 million people were killed in that war, most of them Russians and civilians. Let’s not forget the ones that white people don’t count. 3 Million German soldier went to Russia (or was it 6?), only 250,000 returned to their families, most of them in 1955. Many died in camps after WWII, when it was all over.

    Napoleon was the bad guy because: He lost at Waterloo. Let’s not mention that he appeared to be the only one fighting the Rothschild domination of the Central Banks (Vienna, Florence, Paris, Hanover and soon to be: The Bank of England). In 1815, after the defeat of Napoleon, Nathan Rothschild took control of the Bank of England.

    In 2001, only 7 nations had a Non-Rothschild controlled central bank. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Cuba and Libya. Are any of these nations likely to be on the US list of “Enemies” or “Against US interests”? Scary indeed!

    The world is waking up but are enough people waking up? I hope web 2.0 will take some power away from the old system and stop rigged elections, mass spread of lies and smiling assassins running world governments.

    There are good guys and bad guys on both sides. If people would only stop reading newspapers and throw out their TV’s, the world might become a better place.

21. Zubli Zainordin on February 11th, 2008 7:39 pm
    

    This is one of the issues, it is not easy to aim at a nation’s leader and avoid hitting the nation’s native. Yet, the real target is those behind the scene. Well, particularly the in between along the journey of our humanity, we witness a beginning where line borders and square territories becomes an illusory reality, where our great grandfather when he first step on earth, lines are naturalness of mountains, rivers, and seas. For a common cause, Bobby Revellian, in my wisdom, I do not have race in my mind and heart. You and me, we are citizens of the world. Be totally glad, and we proceed where we have wisely started steps toward a level of enlightenment.

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22. Zubli Zainordin on February 11th, 2008 8:13 pm
    

    Dear Sean Rasmussen, Haa we are now exposing more to shine more lights for our understanding. Good. I am glad you read the message I am sending quite clear. I shall now add another aspect. My friend and I, we discuss usury. This bulging subtleness we discussed in the context of the world economy, money, finance, instruments, currency trading and banking. Well, who did not go through upper secondary schools with this definition of economy: the managing of limited and scarce resources. Define or be defined. I am blessed to have read books by Paul Zane Pilzer, and I then understand economy as the sharing of abundance. See the vast differences? Yes! Next, we are so used to money, most of us have forgotten its origin. Ever heard of promisory note? Those days, individuals carry golds in unchangs made of cloth. Come one guy, “listen, why do you carry all these gold around, let me keep it for you, and I give you this paper as a promise we are binded”. Soon, these papers are cut nice and neat and known as money. Smartly yet wisely please ask, who gets to keep the actual gold? On a larger scale, The Central Bank. Who amongst the public really know that the Bank of England, belongs not to the government of England, but privately owned. In my country, individuals working in the Central Bank, and their salary, paid not in the list of our government’s payroll. A native such as this then is answering to a master outside. Next, I was enlightened to the fact that a leader of our nation, pegged our currency at 3.8, in the biggest financial fiasco ever recorded, else it is a commodity when traded, our entire nation can be bancrupted. I can understand a company borrowing capital from a country, but, where is the logic a country borrowing money from a company. For those who are familiar, then each will understand what is national debts and how it all started, and promises dated back to say 1500, each year a native unnecessarily pay taxes, to fulfill this promises we are not involved in, in the first place, and it is like borrowing a dollar and paying back 10, thus every country will continue to be in debts forever. Think about these. Be wise, and be enlightened.

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23. Sean Rasmussen on February 12th, 2008 6:40 am
    

    Hi Zubli. In my eagerness, I left out a key point:

    In 2001, only 7 nations had a Non-Rothschild controlled central bank. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Cuba and Libya.

    Do I need to add that there are only 5 left? Who’s next on the list?

    If you don’t live in one of those countries, then your government doesn’t own or control your Central Bank.

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24. emila yusof on February 12th, 2008 3:24 pm
    

    Omigod Bobby! I have goosebumps watching those two videos! They’re so scary! And I’m so scared of what is going to happen…

    I’ve read about the 9-11 theory somewhere in the net (forgot which site) and they mentioned that Bush and Osama were friends/partners before.

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25. Zubli Zainordin on February 12th, 2008 8:45 pm
    

    Dear Sean Rasmussen, thank you for that bit of information. I say, it is vital in this discussion as it relates to the New World Order. Who is next? I know their game, it is easy. Folks, please observe the team who brings a suitcase into your leader’s office. First they offer an investment on the best goods your country has. If not, they offer to take care of the junks your country may not be interested in at the present moment, and in this they shall flourish. If not, they offer weaponry to the leaders to attack another nation. If not, they offer weaponry because they scare you out of daylight that another nation is and shall be attacking yours. Otherwise how can there be Iran-Iraq war lasting 10 years or a bit more. By the end of the discussion, at the end of the day, your nation will borrow money from them, and your nation will be in debt, and soon, sure enough your leaders need to borrow more money, to cover debts and inflation or the like. Money? I mean Gold. Who has them? The Central Bank, or a bank larger than this. Bobby Revellian, please ponder on this. Many individuals think she or he has a country. Sooner or later, it is like someone who owns a house, yet the house belongs to the bank still, until debts are cleared. For a country, how can the debts be cleared, every time you pay a million dollars, your owning increases in interests 10 times more. Usury! Each country, okay 5 left, will be in debt indefinitely for 1000 of years to come. If not a tower, what will their plan be next, and soon after young soldiers are send to places they prefer not to be at, in the name of…

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26. Ev Nucci on February 14th, 2008 10:09 am
    

    Hi Bobby,
    After reading your comment on my blog I had to come over here and check this out. What’s odd is that I’ve wondered if GB2 is the antichrist. I wouldn’t doubt it.

    I haven’t trusted our government for some time. Go back to GB and what he did when 9/11 happened. I can’t shake that memory. I was there three days prior so it’s very real for me. What GB has done is sooo awful that it is beyond my comprehension that thinking individuals do not see it.

    And do I believe that our own government did this to us? Ah, I don’t know, but I do know that I want to watch that movie. I do know this scares me to death. I’ve heard of the New World Order…the concept behind it as you’ve presented it here is petrifying.

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27. Revellian on February 14th, 2008 5:44 pm
    

    Well at least Bush will be gone soon and I cannot wait. America attacking Iraq and killing thousands of innocent people was an act of mass murder….it was wrong. Don’t be scared Emila, just be the wonderful person you are and love will prevail, solving these problems

28. Revellian on February 14th, 2008 5:47 pm
    

    Hi Ev! You really should spend two hours and watch this film. I warn you that it is extremely disturbing. I’m not saying everything in the movie is true, but it’s real purpose is to help people seek truth and think much more critically. If you do watch it, let me know so we can discuss it!

29. Sean Rasmussen on February 14th, 2008 7:06 pm
    

    Hi Zubli. And then, when the national debt is so high the nation cannot cope, the lending nation asks for their UN votes. OH, the mind boggles at exactly what can be achieved when you have all these crippled nations under your wing in the UN.

    Hi Bobby. I ordered the DVD online from the site you suggested. I will sit down and watch it as soon as it arrives. Thanks!

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30. Zubli Zainordin on February 14th, 2008 10:46 pm
    

    My dear learned friend bloggers, I know a lot, but there are items still unknown to me. Please define, AntiChrist. Perchance, then, most will know, me too, whether any individual who sits in The Office, past or present, is or is not. Thanks in advance.

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31. Sean Rasmussen on February 15th, 2008 3:25 pm
    

    HI Zubli. It is a term that should not be put on anyone. I used it “toungue in cheek” and did not want it to be labelled on anyone. What it means is “the opposite of Christ” and is a very bad terminology to use. To others you could say “antibuddha”. As you can see, it is a very offensive term and is only used to define acts of “unchristian” behaviour.
    All religions are based on good (as far as I know). It is only those that interpret the rules in their own favor, or personal gain, that commit crimes against the faith and belief their religion is truly based on.

32. Revellian on February 15th, 2008 5:42 pm
    

    Hi Sean! I can predict how many comments my posts will get before I publish them +/- 5…haha. If this blog were focused explicitly on political controversy and I had a fairly large readership of that niche; it would get 100’s of comments.

    I probably shouldn’t have thrown my own personal accusations in to this article because I really don’t know anything for sure, but I like to write what I feel at the moment instead of being politically correct. One thing is for sure, there really needs to be an investigation into 9-11 even though the American government has filed it under “history”.

    I don’t like the idea of military tribunals having closed trials and leaving the public in the dark. They are truly above the law.

33. Revellian on February 15th, 2008 5:52 pm
    

    I think you’ll enjoy the movie! In my opinion, the movie’s goal is to simply get people thinking much more critically. When 9-11 happened, I wasn’t thinking about conspiracies, I was thinking about the horrible terrorists the news networks portrayed.

    If another terror attack happens, I will immediately start looking for truth rather than what the media tells me. With so many people being aware of the “inside job” possibility, we can be sure that it will be much more difficult for such a shrewdly imposed, engineered governmental plot.

34. Beaman on February 16th, 2008 9:49 pm
    

    I watched the two videos and must say I disagree entirely with your views. The first video has been taken out of context and the second ‘zeitgeistmovie’ is conspiracy theory nonsense.

    Who is ‘they’ or the ‘few’? Does Zubli Zainordin when refering to ‘them’ mean the Illuminati or basically, Jews?

    I find this all very dangerous to the real security threats we face in the West, such as Islamist terrorism and Iranian nuclear weapons. With respect Revellian, I cannot agree with anything in this post.

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35. Zubli Zainordin on February 17th, 2008 3:35 am
    

    World events: Once we see a happening, we first ask, does this make sense? Then, look under. I have related examples here, two nations of the same religion, at war. It does not make sense, my common sense. Because, leaders in each country during the election promises to deliver goodness. So, look under, yes, the team with the briefcase, doing weaponry business. Similarly, 9-11, the most prominent building hit by terrorists, whose faith is Islam. A Muslim does not do that. Is there one who is able and capable to do so. And the country where this building is erected, has a technology so sophisticated, they know “Yes, Jimmy at the South pole coughed again for the 475th times.” Yet, during the sad event, no one in the administration knows, the planes are coming? LOL!!! Okay, most of them need to watch, Fantasy Island, even if it is a rerun, and here this shout - The plane! The plane!! Next, observe any world event, then look under. I read Bobby Revellian’s remark, and I know, we are more in numbers, now wiser.

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36. Revellian on February 17th, 2008 5:47 am
    

    Hi Beaman, I do agree with you that the 1st video was taken out of context. I had been awake far too long and was extremely irritable while writing this post. I think there is some truth in most conspiracy theories, but most go too far which destroys their credibility.

    I trust that you watched the entire two hour movie? The truth is, I don’t know who was truly responsible for 9-11. It’s obvious that the buildings were hit by planes, but it’s also obvious that the buildings were demolished from the bottom up.

    The structural beams were cut and the rest of the debris was vaporized with thermite. Building 7 was demolished purposefully. The pentagon was hit by a small plane (in my opinion) but as you already know, all video recordings of the event were confiscated by our government.

    The American government will have to prove to me that they were not involved. The investigation into 9-11 is widely considered to be a joke by millions worldwide. Yes of course there is a Mideast threat but many things are not what they seem and the media does play a huge role in influencing public opinion.

    World history itself is filled with politically driven opinion and differs depending on who wrote it.

37. Revellian on February 17th, 2008 6:05 am
    

    Haha…I don’t use terminology such as “antichrist”, it’s basically superstition based on religious beliefs. There’s no such thing.

38. Beaman on February 17th, 2008 6:09 am
    

    Hi Bobby,
    I agree, there are some truths in a lot of conspiracy theories but not all. These theories are unkillable however and anyone disagreeing with them can be seen as part of the conspiracy.
    Regarding 9/11, I truly believe it was Islamic terrorists of the same bulk who carried out Bali, Mumbai, London, Madrid and numerous African and Middle East bombings. I’ve studied the 9/11 footage and see no evidence of rigged explosives.
    I’m afraid that these 9/11 conspiracy theories emanate from the Islamic World where other “a few controlling the world” theories resonate, usually of an anti-Semitic nature.
    I agree that the media is not always as it seems but I take a polar opposite view in regards to what they are ‘not’ showing. ie, the terrorist threat.

    Hi Zubli,
    You state Islam is not capable of a 9/11 event. I couldn’t disagree more. The intolerances and violence shown in the name of Islam is widespread and too numerous to note. As a European, I am seeing that first hand in threats over cartoons, riots in city suburbs, suppression of women (honour killings) and Sharia Law rulings, how dangerous Islamic theology and politics can be.

    Beaman’s last blog post..Iraq Poem & Discussion

39. Revellian on February 17th, 2008 7:05 am
    

    The truth is Beaman, no matter what you or I believe to be true, it is largely opinion. I have also thought about the possibility that Islamic fundamentalists could be behind some conspiracy theories. I’m am unsure of anything in the political arena.

    I don’t like the way the American government handled 9-11. They could have prevented a great deal of bad feelings by being straight forward with the public. They were not, and do everything behind closed doors which makes them look incredibly suspicious. Like many Americans, I despise George Bush and his entire administration. I’m still free and alive, so I suppose I really have nothing to complain about.

    My biggest fear in living here, is after we are hit once more (by a massive terror attack) is that martial law will be established. After Hurricane Katrina, the national guard went from house to house(in New Orleans) and collected guns from law abiding citizens.

    I have many guns in my home and I believe that nobody has the right to keep me from protecting myself. I don’t mean to get off topic, but New Orleans suffered a levee problem, the hurricane hit the Mississippi gulfcoast, where most of the true devastation occurred. It bothered me to see how the media covered the entire event. Mississippi Gulf coast residents felt left out. This place is still in ruin, I know….I live here.

    I am looking for truth in what happened on 9-11, and so far, there’s only opinion. It’s too late to prove anything one way or another. That is the Bush administrations fault.

40. Beaman on February 17th, 2008 3:54 pm
    

    I understand your position and can see your reasoning.
    By the way, it’s hard for me to understand the gun ownership culture in America and would be delighted if the army and police took away people’s guns in Britain.
    Beaman’s last blog post..A Sad Day for Europe

41. Revellian on February 17th, 2008 7:12 pm
    

    I actually feel like I said some things in this post which were out of line. I do often write before I think and allow emotion get in the way.

    I guess gun ownership in America is completely ingrained into our lives. Mine are all locked up and unloaded. After Katrina, people were going around looting and performing home invasions - having a gun for protection seemed like a good thing at the time.

    Personally, I don’t know if I could live with myself if I had to shoot someone, even in self defense. Violence is such a horrible act. Thanks Beaman

42. elaine on February 17th, 2008 8:40 pm
    

    Hi Bobby
    Since i got to yr site recently, i hv been reading updates of comments from yr readers. I like to acknowledge yr authencity and taking ownership of what you wrote. E.g owning it up as it’s yr own opinions and views - not the truth, and yr emotion may come in at times, etc..
    In fact, i enjoy reading all the comments and got to see various views from different angles on the subject and how this could impact people’s lives.
    thank you.

    elaine’s last blog post..Why Do Chronic Diseases Happen To Children?

43. Sean Rasmussen on February 28th, 2008 5:49 am
    

    Hi Bobby and everyone involved in this thread.

    I commend everyone for the civil manner in which this topic has been carried out. There are times when I am very proud to be part of a world community (so do the banks.. Oops!). This is a very sticky topic and I expected it to blow up with tempers early on. I think this is a testament to Bobby’s diplomatic manner in which he has handled the comments.

    Sean Rasmussen’s last blog post..Dreaming - The Cornerstone Of Success

44. Revellian on February 29th, 2008 9:13 pm
    

    Thanks Elaine! It’s my belief that if we weren’t there, we may never know what actually happened. We should never believe everything we read or see on the news!

45. Revellian on February 29th, 2008 9:19 pm
    

    Hi Sean! Being diplomatic all the time isn’t easy as you already know. Sometimes, I like to see people get upset about things and maybe even say things out of anger. When that happens, I completely understand and never hold it against them; I do it myself.

    I do believe there will be another attack on American soil. When it happens, I believe that if it is an inside job, the chances of it being uncovered and proven will be greater than ever before.

46. Sean Rasmussen on March 3rd, 2008 9:53 pm
    

    I agree and I hope we are both wrong Bobby. I cringe at the prospect of one day having doctors implant compulsory microchips into our newborn babies. If it happens, it will be by the peoples choice, thinking it is the best thing to do.
    We are moving towards the “Age Of Ethics”. People are becoming more aware than ever before. The world is becoming a better place and awareness is the number one tool we have to ensure this is the case.

    Sean Rasmussen’s last blog post..Change Your Life in Five Minutes

47. Barrett Laurie on March 13th, 2008 10:43 pm
    

    Bobby,
    Wow, sorry I missed this post! I had seent he zeitgeist film some time ago! I tend to think that there is some truth to it. I understand your desire to have an open investigation. This 9/11 commission looked alot like President Johnsons cronies that saturated the Warren Commission. Great post. Great debate. For anyone who ever starts to argue with me about whether or not the planes took down the towers, I always come back with what about building 7. WTC 7, which was NOT hit by a plane, housed CIA offices, FBI offices and several other key intelligence and law enforcement agency’s. Collapsed into itself, from fire in under 12 hours?????? Right! Hope this finds you well my friend!

    Barrett Laurie’s last blog post..Geraldine Ferraro Resigns From Clinton Campaign Post

48. Revellian on March 13th, 2008 10:54 pm
    

    I think some of us are moving towards the age of ethics but not all. Some of us are already there! The web and blogging are some of the most powerful tools we have. Thanks Sean!

49. Revellian on March 13th, 2008 11:00 pm
    

    Hi Barrett! Yep, building 7 is the one piece of evidence that throws doubt on everything we are told. Also, a physics professor from BYU proved that traces of name brand thermite was found in the dust from the rubble which was obviously used to vaporize every shred of evidence; the most perfect crime ever committed in my opinion.

50. Sean Rasmussen on March 13th, 2008 11:23 pm
    

    Hi Bobby. (Hi Barrett)
    One question that always seems to come to my mind is this:
    How many skyscrapers were lost on US soil (or anywhere for that matter) during the first and second world wars? Or, any wars in history…. Do I hear anyone say: NONE?

    Unless of course there were skyscrapers in Nagasaki & Hiroshima but that was using WMD’s, weapons of mass destruction. That’s easy!

    How many crumbled conveniently into their own footsteps? Even during wartime (especially during wartime), it is literally impossible to plan such a destruction of a highrise building as it takes months of cutting beams, planting explosives and timing it all to coincide for a well planned collapse. If the enemy doesn’t have inside help (the local government), the task at hand is at mamoth proportions.

    The easy way is to have the local guys plan it. As a matter of fact, I believe it’s the only way it can be done.

    Sean Rasmussen’s last blog post..150 Billion Reasons For Your Banker To Smile

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