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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 02:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled on your site - and FULLY agree with what you&#039;re saying. 
I had to laugh - as well as share what you said with others that know about my frustration with these tests/surveys since I was laid off past year.
I&#039;ve worked in retail in the past, mainly to supplement my income between jobs. 
But I&#039;ve never been subjected to so many tests like I&#039;ve had to go thru lately.
A MAJOR Dept Store with the initials  J.C. P.&#039;S was the worst. Before even giving me a chance to talk with anyone I was shut out purely on a VERY similar test online. 
When I completed the test, a screen popped up thanking me for my interest. However, based on my responses they felt I wasn&#039;t right for job AND (and this killed me) I can not reapply for another 6 months!!! 
I have 2 pages of references -many professional contacts that would vouch for me...esp when it comes to my honesty and professionalism. I was livid. 
At least I feel better knowing I&#039;m not the only one frustrated with this insane practice by so many companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled on your site &#8211; and FULLY agree with what you&#8217;re saying.<br />
I had to laugh &#8211; as well as share what you said with others that know about my frustration with these tests/surveys since I was laid off past year.<br />
I&#8217;ve worked in retail in the past, mainly to supplement my income between jobs.<br />
But I&#8217;ve never been subjected to so many tests like I&#8217;ve had to go thru lately.<br />
A MAJOR Dept Store with the initials  J.C. P.&#8217;S was the worst. Before even giving me a chance to talk with anyone I was shut out purely on a VERY similar test online.<br />
When I completed the test, a screen popped up thanking me for my interest. However, based on my responses they felt I wasn&#8217;t right for job AND (and this killed me) I can not reapply for another 6 months!!!<br />
I have 2 pages of references -many professional contacts that would vouch for me&#8230;esp when it comes to my honesty and professionalism. I was livid.<br />
At least I feel better knowing I&#8217;m not the only one frustrated with this insane practice by so many companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article about the psychological employment test enlightened me.  I thought I was doomed after failing an online test for Dick’s Sporting Goods.  Really?  I have over ten years of experience in retail, and I am also a college graduate.  
Collectivism comes to mind when I try to determine the &quot;value&quot; of this type of test.  You mentioned that an employer would rather elect the not-so-smart, lesser threat who passes versus the intelligent, extremely honest or dishonest person.  This must hold to be true.  This company sent me an email almost immediately after taking the online test.  The automated message rejected me based on my answers.  I consider myself a smart girl with a bright future.  An representative of this company would feel differently had they met me in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article about the psychological employment test enlightened me.  I thought I was doomed after failing an online test for Dick’s Sporting Goods.  Really?  I have over ten years of experience in retail, and I am also a college graduate.<br />
Collectivism comes to mind when I try to determine the &#8220;value&#8221; of this type of test.  You mentioned that an employer would rather elect the not-so-smart, lesser threat who passes versus the intelligent, extremely honest or dishonest person.  This must hold to be true.  This company sent me an email almost immediately after taking the online test.  The automated message rejected me based on my answers.  I consider myself a smart girl with a bright future.  An representative of this company would feel differently had they met me in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your&#039;re right.  These tests should be illegal.  They&#039;re nothing but head games.  They send decent, intelligent people packing and reward all the easily controlled, not so smart types with jobs.

My question is what quality of goods and services can we expect if this is the way American companies select their workforce?  Sure, they think they&#039;re protecting their bottom line, but it&#039;s a tragic irony when they fall behind the rest of the world in quality and service.  More outsourcing in store.  

These tests aren&#039;t accurate, face to face interviews worked great for years, and our entire economy suffers.  Yes they should be illegal.  We should asks our representatives if they want to keep their jobs based on a head game.  And if they pass do they advertise to the whole country how mediocre they are?  Sounds like they&#039;re a lot smarter than us in the U.K.

When this economy turns around, and companies are begging for workers, I think I&#039;ll go back to all the companies that harassed me with these tests, get hired, and then tell them to go to Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your&#8217;re right.  These tests should be illegal.  They&#8217;re nothing but head games.  They send decent, intelligent people packing and reward all the easily controlled, not so smart types with jobs.</p>
<p>My question is what quality of goods and services can we expect if this is the way American companies select their workforce?  Sure, they think they&#8217;re protecting their bottom line, but it&#8217;s a tragic irony when they fall behind the rest of the world in quality and service.  More outsourcing in store.  </p>
<p>These tests aren&#8217;t accurate, face to face interviews worked great for years, and our entire economy suffers.  Yes they should be illegal.  We should asks our representatives if they want to keep their jobs based on a head game.  And if they pass do they advertise to the whole country how mediocre they are?  Sounds like they&#8217;re a lot smarter than us in the U.K.</p>
<p>When this economy turns around, and companies are begging for workers, I think I&#8217;ll go back to all the companies that harassed me with these tests, get hired, and then tell them to go to Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these tests are absolutely horrible, I personally love everyone at my job and we get along great and I also know basically everyone at Caribou and the manager wouldn&#039;t let me interview even though they were all excited to hire me, (it seemed lol :) because I didn&#039;t pass the personality test. She said to come back and try to answer differently??   They know me, I know me I know I&#039;d work hard and do a good job, and I don&#039;t want to lie about the fact I like thrills, and got bad grades in High School, and don&#039;t care what people think of me, and aren&#039;t afraid to stand up for myself of tell someone off.  People need to realize you can be who you are on a day to day basis in life, and have some edge, some depth, a bad day sometimes and GOD Foorbid a bad mood, but also be pretty professional and good at your work, it&#039;s extremely unfair.   Some of the most dynamic awesome people I love are weird or at least honest- not A-Typical brady bunch passive aggressive types, and probably wouldn&#039;t pass this test but they&#039;re more memorable and genuine then I bet most people whooo pass this lame Asss test are (or who lie to do it). I have no problems with someone meeting me and being the judge, I do have a problem w/ a computer standing in the way of a job I need based on bullshit unrealistic answers that&#039;d never hold up in real life unless you&#039;re talking about an extremely fake 1 dimensional emotionally dead person... thats retarded, and I&#039;m disapointed companies feel good about using this test. They should do more work related questions, or just get rid of it all together, Something?  I like to be in large crowds? F that I don&#039;t  sorry test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these tests are absolutely horrible, I personally love everyone at my job and we get along great and I also know basically everyone at Caribou and the manager wouldn&#8217;t let me interview even though they were all excited to hire me, (it seemed lol <img src='http://revellian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  because I didn&#8217;t pass the personality test. She said to come back and try to answer differently??   They know me, I know me I know I&#8217;d work hard and do a good job, and I don&#8217;t want to lie about the fact I like thrills, and got bad grades in High School, and don&#8217;t care what people think of me, and aren&#8217;t afraid to stand up for myself of tell someone off.  People need to realize you can be who you are on a day to day basis in life, and have some edge, some depth, a bad day sometimes and GOD Foorbid a bad mood, but also be pretty professional and good at your work, it&#8217;s extremely unfair.   Some of the most dynamic awesome people I love are weird or at least honest- not A-Typical brady bunch passive aggressive types, and probably wouldn&#8217;t pass this test but they&#8217;re more memorable and genuine then I bet most people whooo pass this lame Asss test are (or who lie to do it). I have no problems with someone meeting me and being the judge, I do have a problem w/ a computer standing in the way of a job I need based on bullshit unrealistic answers that&#8217;d never hold up in real life unless you&#8217;re talking about an extremely fake 1 dimensional emotionally dead person&#8230; thats retarded, and I&#8217;m disapointed companies feel good about using this test. They should do more work related questions, or just get rid of it all together, Something?  I like to be in large crowds? F that I don&#8217;t  sorry test.</p>
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		<title>By: krentz</title>
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		<dc:creator>krentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, what a fucking farce these psychological profile tests seem to be. Outright discrimination, particularly against introverts, though considering the prevailing Western culture, I can hardly say I&#039;m surprised. Thankfully I haven&#039;t been subjected to any of these here in the UK, but then, I haven&#039;t landed a job either, as I&#039;m a modestly intelligent University dropout with no experience in the middle of a recession (and my CV is in dire need of a reformat).

If it is a corruption of the MBTI, that&#039;s disgraceful. &quot;An introvert is less open and thus more likely to steal&quot;? I could argue that extraverts are more likely to steal as they are more susceptible to external influences and are usually never as idealistic. As an INFP I&#039;d never be able to justify such an action. Principles and so on.

I&#039;m not too fond of parties because I hardly ever know anyone there, 80% of the chatter will be meaningless and insipid small-talk, and let us not forget it&#039;s impossible to enjoy yourself without first drinking yourself into a semi-conscious stupour. Exaggerated or not, these things are anathema to me. The parties I enjoy could scarcely be called parties, I suspect. 

Doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039;t enjoy or even co-ordinate teams, where there is an actual objective to focus on, and everyone&#039;s not blind drunk.

Now, about the whole honesty thing. I&#039;d probably fail that test based on honesty alone. The sheer fact that you can fail by being too honest, or people not believing it&#039;s possible, says it all, really. They say with questions about stealing they are filtering out your propensity to deception, but the truth is I honestly would not concern myself with such things, and if I did know, would report them unless I had a good reason not to. That&#039;s another thing - a lot of these questions are HIGHLY CONTEXT DEPENDENT. I want to slap these pseudo-psychologists in the face.

Questions about murder? Sex? WHAT? No, I wouldn&#039;t hate anyone&#039;s mother if I murdered them in revenge, because I would never murder anyone in revenge for anything, and why would that have anything to do with their fucking mother? Those questions should be constitutionally outlawed, it is both abnormally invasive and downright illegal if you ask me. Makes me glad I live where I do!  

...Almost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, what a fucking farce these psychological profile tests seem to be. Outright discrimination, particularly against introverts, though considering the prevailing Western culture, I can hardly say I&#8217;m surprised. Thankfully I haven&#8217;t been subjected to any of these here in the UK, but then, I haven&#8217;t landed a job either, as I&#8217;m a modestly intelligent University dropout with no experience in the middle of a recession (and my CV is in dire need of a reformat).</p>
<p>If it is a corruption of the MBTI, that&#8217;s disgraceful. &#8220;An introvert is less open and thus more likely to steal&#8221;? I could argue that extraverts are more likely to steal as they are more susceptible to external influences and are usually never as idealistic. As an INFP I&#8217;d never be able to justify such an action. Principles and so on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too fond of parties because I hardly ever know anyone there, 80% of the chatter will be meaningless and insipid small-talk, and let us not forget it&#8217;s impossible to enjoy yourself without first drinking yourself into a semi-conscious stupour. Exaggerated or not, these things are anathema to me. The parties I enjoy could scarcely be called parties, I suspect. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t enjoy or even co-ordinate teams, where there is an actual objective to focus on, and everyone&#8217;s not blind drunk.</p>
<p>Now, about the whole honesty thing. I&#8217;d probably fail that test based on honesty alone. The sheer fact that you can fail by being too honest, or people not believing it&#8217;s possible, says it all, really. They say with questions about stealing they are filtering out your propensity to deception, but the truth is I honestly would not concern myself with such things, and if I did know, would report them unless I had a good reason not to. That&#8217;s another thing &#8211; a lot of these questions are HIGHLY CONTEXT DEPENDENT. I want to slap these pseudo-psychologists in the face.</p>
<p>Questions about murder? Sex? WHAT? No, I wouldn&#8217;t hate anyone&#8217;s mother if I murdered them in revenge, because I would never murder anyone in revenge for anything, and why would that have anything to do with their fucking mother? Those questions should be constitutionally outlawed, it is both abnormally invasive and downright illegal if you ask me. Makes me glad I live where I do!  </p>
<p>&#8230;Almost.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Stoffers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Stoffers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the question I got at Jack In The Box:
&quot;I would get along with people better if I argued less&quot;
rate from Strongly Disagree to Strongly Agree.

BTW I don&#039;t argue with coworkers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the question I got at Jack In The Box:<br />
&#8220;I would get along with people better if I argued less&#8221;<br />
rate from Strongly Disagree to Strongly Agree.</p>
<p>BTW I don&#8217;t argue with coworkers</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Mallast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Mallast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 21:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If done properly, I think tests of personality, talents, and skills could be of great mutual benefit to both employer and employee.  But that won&#039;t happen because it would cost too much and take too much of the HR manager&#039;s time.  Even when done properly, the results have to be taken with a couple cartons of salt.

I have taken a bunch of such tests, such as MBTI, tests over various talents, IQ tests, career interest tests, etc. as part of my own career exploration which included Community College &quot;Life-Career Development Class&quot; and paid (by me) counseling. They were enlightening if not as helpful as I would have liked.

Also, of course, I had to take CEEB and SAT tests to get into college.  Inconsistincies in CEEB and SAT results have raised questions in my mind about their validity.  What was funny I did poorly on the GRE (Graduate Record Examination) which is required for admission to some grad schools AFTER I already HAD a graduate degree.  I came away thinking the GRE was chiefly a test of short-term memory at which I am a bit weak.

I am beginning to wonder about the validity of all of these tests ;-). Including, the pencil and paper corruptions of the Stanford-Binet IQ test.  (The real Stanford-Binet, I read, requires an extensive interview).  These things got started during World War I and seem to have spawned like smelt.  The results have to be used with discretion.  They may have some good points in defense of the Stanford-Binet in screening potential college students in &quot;The Bell Curve,&quot; especially against &quot;cultural bias,&quot;  but overall I think employers and college admissions officers put far too much faith in these things.

Parenthetically I think college admissions officers and employers put too much faith in grade point averages.  I went to a small Catholic high school and there were at least a couple students who flunked out who then went to the public high school and got straight As without breaking a sweat.

Regardless, I still think the store tests are corruptions of these by half-educated psychologists and are a disservice to everyone.  And I still haven&#039;t got a clue as to how to pass the things.

Odd is that the more menial the job, the more likely a test.  I have applied for many jobs of high pay and high responsibility just by e-mailing my resume.

By the way, the funniest one I ever took had about every third question regarding drinking habits.  By the end of the test I was beginning to wonder if the company only hired lushes! :-s

Best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If done properly, I think tests of personality, talents, and skills could be of great mutual benefit to both employer and employee.  But that won&#8217;t happen because it would cost too much and take too much of the HR manager&#8217;s time.  Even when done properly, the results have to be taken with a couple cartons of salt.</p>
<p>I have taken a bunch of such tests, such as MBTI, tests over various talents, IQ tests, career interest tests, etc. as part of my own career exploration which included Community College &#8220;Life-Career Development Class&#8221; and paid (by me) counseling. They were enlightening if not as helpful as I would have liked.</p>
<p>Also, of course, I had to take CEEB and SAT tests to get into college.  Inconsistincies in CEEB and SAT results have raised questions in my mind about their validity.  What was funny I did poorly on the GRE (Graduate Record Examination) which is required for admission to some grad schools AFTER I already HAD a graduate degree.  I came away thinking the GRE was chiefly a test of short-term memory at which I am a bit weak.</p>
<p>I am beginning to wonder about the validity of all of these tests <img src='http://revellian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Including, the pencil and paper corruptions of the Stanford-Binet IQ test.  (The real Stanford-Binet, I read, requires an extensive interview).  These things got started during World War I and seem to have spawned like smelt.  The results have to be used with discretion.  They may have some good points in defense of the Stanford-Binet in screening potential college students in &#8220;The Bell Curve,&#8221; especially against &#8220;cultural bias,&#8221;  but overall I think employers and college admissions officers put far too much faith in these things.</p>
<p>Parenthetically I think college admissions officers and employers put too much faith in grade point averages.  I went to a small Catholic high school and there were at least a couple students who flunked out who then went to the public high school and got straight As without breaking a sweat.</p>
<p>Regardless, I still think the store tests are corruptions of these by half-educated psychologists and are a disservice to everyone.  And I still haven&#8217;t got a clue as to how to pass the things.</p>
<p>Odd is that the more menial the job, the more likely a test.  I have applied for many jobs of high pay and high responsibility just by e-mailing my resume.</p>
<p>By the way, the funniest one I ever took had about every third question regarding drinking habits.  By the end of the test I was beginning to wonder if the company only hired lushes! :-s</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
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		<title>By: jomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pep Boys??? Pep Boys gives these tests?? Pep boys is one of the worst McCarparts chains that I have ever dealt with. They peddle penny-dreadful 3rd world knockoff parts with no quality at ridiculously high prices and their automotive service is a trap for the mechanically uninitiated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pep Boys??? Pep Boys gives these tests?? Pep boys is one of the worst McCarparts chains that I have ever dealt with. They peddle penny-dreadful 3rd world knockoff parts with no quality at ridiculously high prices and their automotive service is a trap for the mechanically uninitiated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Revell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Revell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ridiculous that a store like Pep Boys even does a psychological test, it is unconstitutional and infringes on personal liberties. Pep Boys is not the CIA and have no right to administer such a test. I don&#039;t shop there anyway. Good luck finding a job and I wish you the best:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ridiculous that a store like Pep Boys even does a psychological test, it is unconstitutional and infringes on personal liberties. Pep Boys is not the CIA and have no right to administer such a test. I don&#8217;t shop there anyway. Good luck finding a job and I wish you the best:)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Mallast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Mallast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took two hours to fill out an on-line application form for Pep Boys auto parts.  Then took the psychological test which promptly blew me out.  After wasting two hours on the application I was angry.  So I sent an e-mail to the company president complaining.  He referred the matter to someone in the HR department who called me, apologized, but refused to consider me over the test results.  He said I could take the test again in six months.  I told him, (being sarastic) I would tell the mortgage company to wait six months to get paid.  I told him that if that was their attitude I was going to tell everyone I knew to NOT do business with Pep Boys.  He said &quot;I am sorry to hear you say that.&quot;  I don&#039;t need &quot;sorry,&quot; I need a job or at least a fair chance at one.  So I am telling everyone here, &quot;Don&#039;t do business with Pep Boys.&quot;

Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took two hours to fill out an on-line application form for Pep Boys auto parts.  Then took the psychological test which promptly blew me out.  After wasting two hours on the application I was angry.  So I sent an e-mail to the company president complaining.  He referred the matter to someone in the HR department who called me, apologized, but refused to consider me over the test results.  He said I could take the test again in six months.  I told him, (being sarastic) I would tell the mortgage company to wait six months to get paid.  I told him that if that was their attitude I was going to tell everyone I knew to NOT do business with Pep Boys.  He said &#8220;I am sorry to hear you say that.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t need &#8220;sorry,&#8221; I need a job or at least a fair chance at one.  So I am telling everyone here, &#8220;Don&#8217;t do business with Pep Boys.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
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